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Jeremy Herve
Jeremy Herve

WordPress, TV Series, music, kids, and board games. I think that’s probably the best way to define me in a few words. 🙂

I work at Automattic where I lead a team building tools for bloggers and creators. I talk a lot about WordPress things, but also about all things open source in general.

I post in English and in French.

I live in Brittany, France, so you’ll also find me sharing pictures from our beautiful region from time to time.

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Today I learn about Lumo, a new AI assistant from the folks at @protonprivacy.

The cynic and ex-Proton customer in me cannot help but think that an AI assistant is definitely not on top of the priority list for Proton customers today. It’s curious that Proton would choose to focus on that. I guess AI is where it’s at these days, you got to surf that wave…

AI assistant that respects your privacy

  • Strict no-logs policy
  • Encrypted
  • Built and based in Europe
Lumo

It seems the free version gives you access to “limited daily chats”. There is no more information right now, I’m assuming you’re limited to a certain amount of tokens but they don’t say how many. Lumo itself won’t tell me either 😐

Screenshot of a chat with Lumo ; it will not reveal the exact limits of the different Lumo plans

Their docs mention that the bot uses open-source models: Nemo, OpenHands 32B, OLMO 2 32B, and Mistral Small 3. Some may find those a bit limited, but the privacy focus is certainly interesting! That makes me curious to see what’s the advantage of Lumo versus using one of the many apps that allow you to use LLMs locally.

Their landing page and docs also keep mentioning that Lumo’s code is open source, so I figured I may find some answers there. Unfortunately I wasn’t able to find any link to the actual source. Proton has multiple GitHub organizations (ProtonVPN, Proton Mail), but I couldn’t find any Lumo repositories there. It must be somewhere, I’m just surprised the folks at Proton didn’t link to it!

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  1. Jenkins Avatar

    @jeremy @protonprivacy I was able to get Lumo to tell me how many questions could be asked each day on the free tier assuming usage conditions were all average amounts.

    Answer: 50 – 100 per day

    Of course it could be a complete fabrication so no real way to know for sure.


    1. Jenkins Avatar

      @jeremy @protonprivacy I was also able to get Lumo to provide a link to the GitHub page for its source code, though it doesn’t appear to exist… At least publicly. Yet.

      https://github.com/ProtonMail/lumo


    2. Jeremy Herve Avatar

      Nice work!

      I assume we’ll get an official answer in the next few days, as folks start running into the limits and Proton communicates about it. 🤞


  2. Guido Stevens Avatar

    @jeremy @protonprivacy Seems not available as open source.


  3. @jeremy
    @protonprivacy
    The (quite obvious) advantage over local LLMs, is that you don't need to run and maintain them yourself.
    They often have high demands for processing power that not anyone can just run locally.


  4. tlohde Avatar

    @jeremy @protonprivacy I think I might now be a future ex-customer…



Jeremy Herve
Jeremy Herve

WordPress, TV Series, music, kids, and board games. I think that’s probably the best way to define me in a few words. 🙂

I work at Automattic where I lead a team building tools for bloggers and creators. I talk a lot about WordPress things, but also about all things open source in general.

I post in English and in French.

I live in Brittany, France, so you’ll also find me sharing pictures from our beautiful region from time to time.

1,241 posts
195 followers